YOU COMING OVER TONIGHT.

THANKS SO MUCH.

GREAT TO SEE YOU.

TENSIONS AROUND I.C.E.

PRESENCE ARE NOT JUST CONCENTRATED IN THE TWIN CITIES METRO.

REPORTER KAOMI LEE TRAVELED TO ST.

CLOUD LAST WEEK TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE IMPACT IN GREATER MINNESOTA.

>> CLOSE MY PLACE BECAUSE FOR THE SITUATION, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

>> THIS ST.

CLOUD RESTAURANT OWNER HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO LEAVE HIS APARTMENT FOR THREE WEEKS.

HE FEARS BEING PICKED UP BY FEDERAL I.C.E.

AGENTS.

WE'VE AGREED NOT TO IDENTIFY HIM OTHER THAN A NICKNAME, ALDO, BECAUSE OF SAFETY CONCERNS.

HE'S ORIGINALLY FROM MEXICO CITY AND HAS BEEN IN THE U.S.

FOR 34 YEARS.

>> VERY SCARY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IN WHAT MOMENT THE PEOPLE ARE SAFE OR NOT.

>> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION INITIALLY SAID ITS PRIORITY WAS TO DETAIN AND DEPORT VIOLENT UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS.

HOWEVER, RIGHTS GROUPS AND OFFICIALS SAY THE SCOPE IS FAR WIDER.

THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY SENT MORE THAN 2,000 AGENTS TO MINNESOTA.

ONE OF ITS GOAL HAS BEEN TO DETAIN AND REEVALUATE THE STATE'S 5600 REFUGEE.

SOMALI COMMUNITY LEADERS SAY THE OPERATION IN ST.

CLOUD HAS CAUSED FEAR.

>> I.C.E.

AVE A MANDATE TO ROUND UP SOMALI COMMUNITIES, ASK FOR I.D.s AND DETAIN THEM WITHOUT A PROBABLE CAUSE.

>> DASANI IS A MINNESOTA HOUSE CANDIDATE.

SHE DID NOT MAKE HERSELF AVAILABLE FOR COMMENT ON I.C.E.

ACTIVITY IN ST.

CLOUD DESPITE MULTIPLE REQUESTS FOR INTERVIEWS OR STATEMENT.

DISANI SAYS I.C.E.

CONVOYS ARE SPOTTED DAILY AROUND FOOD CENTERS AND EVEN AT RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS.

HE SAYS PEOPLE AREN'T ABLE TO GO ABOUT THEIR LIVES.

>> I KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT SENDING THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL.

I KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT GOING FOR GROCERIES AND ASKING FOLKS TO HELP THEM GET GROCERIES.

I KNOW PEOPLE NOT GOING TO MOSQUE TO PRAY AND I KNOW PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WORKING.

>> WEEKS AGO THIS WAS THE SCENE OF A CONFRONTATION BETWEEN DOZENS OF FEDERAL I.C.E.

AGENTS AND HUNDREDS OF PROTESTERS.

THE STRIP SMALL IS FULL OF SOMALI OWNED BUSINESSES AND MANY BUSINESS OWNERS SAY THEY FEAR FOR WHAT'S TO COME.

AT STAR MARKET IN ST.

CLOUD AN HOURS-LONG STANDOFF BETWEEN I.C.E.

AND PROTESTERS ENDED.

ONE BYSTANDER SAYS I.C.E.

IS CREATING TENSE SITUATIONS.

>> WE ALL LIVE HERE, I WAS BORN HERE, I'VE BEEN HERE MY WHOLE LIFE AND TO SEE THE WAY IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BASICALLY FORCING US INTO OUR HOMES AND PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO OUTSIDE IS RIDICULOUS.

>> HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS HAPPENING ON YOUR STREETS?

>> I HAVE NOT IN MY 31 YEARS.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS.

WHAT I HAVE SEEN IS WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A ROBUST AND VERY POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS.

INCLUDING OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS.

>> VERY RISKY, VERY VOLATILE SITUATION.

ALL THINGS CONSIDERED -- DIDN'T SEE AN ES ESCALATION IN VIOLENCE, WE DIDN'T SEE VANDALISM.

>> CIVILIAN SOURCES SAID I.C.E.

MADE SOME ARRESTS BUT I.C.E.

HASN'T SHARED WITH LOCAL POLICE EITHER BEFORE OR AFTER DETAINING PEOPLE.

>> NOT GETTING INFORMATION INFORMATION BACK FROM FEDERAL AUTHORITIES, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT, AGAIN, IT'S JUST NOT WHAT WE'RE USED TO IN 30 YEARS I'VE SEEN.

>> AUSTIN HAS BEEN CHIEF FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.

HE SAYS THE REALITY IS IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IS NEEDED.

>> WE NEEDED IT BUT IT COMES BACK TO HAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

HOW THINGS ARE DONE MATTERS.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING AND HOW THINGS ARE DONE RIGHT NOW IS CAUSING FEAR.

>> I THINK COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WE'VE FACED IN WORKING WITH THEM SIMPLY BECAUSE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE INFORMATION AND THE PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE INFORMATION THAT ALLOWS SOMETIMES FALSEHOODS, MISINFORMATION, INFLATED INFORMATION, SOMETIMES TRUE INFORMATION TO SEEP INTO SOCIAL MEDIA AND THEN BECOME KIND OF THE NARRATIVE.

BUT WE'RE LIVING IN A WORLD WHERE WE NEED TO CONFIRM THINGS, RIGHT, WE CAN'T BE GOING ON HUNCH OR WHIM.

>> BOTH CAUTION THAT OFFICIALS HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY IN DE-ESCALATING TENSIONS.

IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE KILLING OF RENEE GOOD, MINNEAPOLIS MAYOR FREY REACTED.

GET THE BLEEP OUT OF MINNEAPOLIS.

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S HELPFUL RHETORIC.

INDEED WHAT YOU SAW HAPPENED WAS THAT THEY DOUBLED THE PRESENCE OF I.C.E.

DID HE GET THE RESULT HE WANTED?

HE MAYBE WANTED TO GET A POLITICAL RESULT.

>> SAID IN AN E-MAIL THAT FAMILY MEMBERS INCLUDING MINOR CHILDREN HAVE BEEN TAKEN FROM THEIR HOMES OR DETAINED WHILE COMING HOME FROM WORK OR SCHOOL.

MANY APPEARED TO BE QUICKLY TRANSFERRED TO TEXAS FOR PROCESSING.

ST.

CLOUD STATE UNIVERSITY SAYS TWO OF ITS INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS ON STUDENT VISAS WERE DETAINED.

ONE WAS TRANSFERRED TO AN OUT OF STATE HOLDING FACILITY.

>> SOMETIMES ONLY HAVE ONE OR TWO TABLES PER DAY.

>> ALDO HAD TO CLOSE HIS RESTAURANT BECAUSE HIS CUSTOMERS FEARED GOING OUT.

HE SAYS HE'S LOSING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS EVERY WEEK.

HIS WIFE IS ALSO FROM MEXICO AND HAS AN ACTIVE IMMIGRATION CASE.

TWO OF THEIR THREE U.S.-BORN CHILDREN LIVE NEARBY.

FOR NOW THE FUTURE OF HIS RESTAURANT AND HIS AMERICAN DREAM IS UNCLEAR.

>> WHEN I MOVED THE FIRST TIME IN ST.

CLOUD, I THINK IT'S MY PLACE FOR MY DREAMS AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, AND NOW IT'S A REALLY HARD SITUATION.

♪♪ >> Eric: JOINING US TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE SITUATION IN ST.

CLOUD, KAOMI LEE.

WELL, WHAT IS THE POLICE SETUP TO WORK WITH I.C.E.

OR NOT WORK WITH I.C.E.?

>> WELL, IN 2005 THERE WAS A COMMUNITY POLICING AGREEMENT, AND THAT WAS UPDATED IN 2017.

AND THAT OUTLINED HAT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT DOES NOT DO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

RIGHT NOW, THEY AREN'T REALLY, AS WE HEARD IN THE PIECE, THEY ARE NOT GETTING FOREWARNING OF ANY DETAINMENTS OR TARGETS AND THEY ALSO AREN'T GETTING ANY INFORMATION AFTER AN ACTION HAS TAKEN PLACE.

SO THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW WHO'S BEING SWEPT UP AND THEY'RE RELYING JUST LIKE THE REST OF US ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND, YOU KNOW, BYSTANDER ACCOUNTS, MEDIA RECORDINGS, AS -- AND COMMUNITY REPORTS AS TO WHO'S BEEN DETAINED.

>> Cathy: I'M GLAD YOU WENT INTO GREATER MINNESOTA, I MEAN, WE'VE HEARD I.C.E.

AGENTS AVE BEEN AROUND TWO HARBORS DOWN TO ST.

CLOUD, WILLMAR, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE STATE.

I'M WONDERING DID ST.

CLOUD CITY LEADERS, HAVE THEY BEEN TO TALK TO OTHER CITY LEADERS AROUND MINNESOTA AS TO HOW EVERYONE'S DEALING WITH THIS AT ALL?

>> INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH ON MONDAY THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED A RESOLUTION 6-1 AFFIRMING THAT THE CITY WAS GOING TO BE -- WAS AFFIRMING THAT THEY WERE WELCOMING AND JUST FOR ALL.

THAT WAS PUT FORWARD BY HUDA IBRAHIM WHO IS THE FIRST SOMALI AMERICAN TO SIT ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND SHE WAS APPOINTED IN 2017 -- SHE WAS APPOINTED IN 2024.

BUT INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH THERE WAS LENGTHY DEBATE ABOUT THAT LANGUAGE.

, EXEC THE IDEA WAS SHOULD THEY BE LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS ARE WELCOME.

>> YES, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MARK JOHNSON HAD QUESTIONED WHETHER THEY SHOULD TWEAK THE LANGUAGE AT ALL AND DID IT MEAN THAT LAW-ABIDING AND SHOULD THEY PUT IN PEOPLE THAT WERE LEGALLY -- LEGALLY ABLE TO BE THERE.

ONE COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, YOU KNOW, ADMITTED SHE JAYWALKS AND SOMETIMES SPEEDS AND WOULD THAT MEAN SHE WOULD NOT BE WELCOME.

AND I THINK THE CONSENSUS WAS IT WAS TOO MUCH GETTING INTO THE WEEDS, THEY JUST WANTED TO AFFIRM THE COMMUNITY POLICING AGREEMENT FROM 2017, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKE THAT STATEMENT.

AND IT'S NOT LEGALLY BINDING.

>> Cathy: I'M WONDERING TOO, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR AND THE POLICE CHIEF, I WONDER HOW POLICING OR HOW INTO THE FUTURE, BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED, DOES THE POLICE CHIEF THINK THAT THIS MIGHT HAVE RESIDUAL EFFECTS WITH THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN FOLKS IN ST.

CLOUD AND THEIR LOCAL POLICE?

>> WELL, THAT IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THEY, THROUGH THE COMMUNITY POLICING AGREEMENT THEY HAVE AGREED UPON CONDUCT AND INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC ON HOW THEY OULD DO ITH WARRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BEFORE JUST GOING IN AND SEARCHING A HOME.

AND AS WE'VE SEEN FEDERAL AGENTS ARE TAKING A DIFFERENT TACK.

AND SO THERE IS A CONCERN THAT THE PUBLIC IS REMEMBER OVER WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT AND THEY MIGHT GET CONFUSED AS TO WHO'S ACTUALLY, IF THE LOCAL POLICE ARE ASSISTING I.C.E.

IN THESE IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENTS OR NOT.

SO THAT IS A CONCERN.

SO DEFINITELY.

>> Cathy: ALL