TIME WITH YOU.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Cathy: WELL, THE POLITICS OF THE IMMIGRATION ACTION IN MINNESOTA HIFTED THIS WEEK.

POLITICAL REPORTER MARY LAHAMMER SHOWS US HOW A GUN RIGHTS ADVOCATE AND REPUBLICAN LAWMAKER SPOKE UP.

>> AFTER ANOTHER FATAL SHOOTING BY FEDERAL AGENTS IN MINNESOTA, MORE THAN HALF A DOZEN STATE BCA AGENTS WERE ON THE SCENE DAYS LATER, PROCESSING EVIDENCE, AS MOURNERS REMEMBERED V.A.

NURSE ALEX PRETTI.

IT SEEMED NOW THE POLITICS OF THE ISSUE HAVE SHIFTED.

>> REPRESENTATIVE MEYERS AND I WROTE A LETTER TO THE GOVERNOR.

IT WAS THE SAME LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT.

WE WOULDN'T PUBLICIZE IT UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING OCCURRED BUT IT WAS BEGGING THEM SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, GOVERNOR, PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL, PRESIDENT, PICK UP THE PHONE.

>> AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU HELPED IT HAPPEN OR NOT.

>> NO IDEA, I'M SURE THERE IS 100,000 PEOPLE THAT DID THE SAME THING.

>> NOT ONLY RE REPUBLICANS PRIVATELY AND PUBLICLY QUESTIONING THE IMMIGRATION ACTION, BUT THE STATE'S LEADING GUN RIGHTS GROUPS SPOKE OUT ABOUT THE KILLING OF A LEGAL PERMIT HOLDER.

>> THE NARRATIVE THAT WAS PUT OUT BY THE DHS ND BORDER PATROL UNION AND OTHER FEDERAL OFFICIALS WAS JUST INACCURATE AS FAR AS LIKE WHAT WE SAW WITH OUR OWN EYES.

>> WERE YOU SURPRISED THAT YOU HAD TO REFUTE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?

>> I WISH I COULD HAVE BEEN AT THIS POINT.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE OPERATION METRO SURGE I THINK THE DHS HAS SHOWN TO NOT BE A PARTICULARLY RELIABLE NARRATOR.

I WAS IMMEDIATELY SKEPTICAL WHEN I READ THEIR TATEMENT.

BUT I AM SURPRISED THAT DIRECTOR OF THE FBI IS PUTTING A BLATANT INCORRECT INFORMATION ABOUT MINNESOTANS' RIGHTS TO CARRY.

>> AND WHAT IS THE LAW THAT YOU HAD TO CLARIFY >> THAT YOU CAN'T CARRY AT A PROTEST.

NOTHING IN MINNESOTA LAW THAT SAYS THAT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN EXERCISING YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

>> VERY DEEPLY VALUE THEIR ... >> DISHEARTENED BY INACCURATE MESSAGING.

>> HOW MUCH MEDIA HAVE YOU DONE SINCE THIS HAPPENED?

IS >> THIS IS INTERVIEW NUMBER 30 AND I'M NOT DONE YET.

>> THE FIREARM ECAME APPARENT.

>> YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING A LOT OF THE I.C.E.

ACTIONS AND CONCERNED ABOUTS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR HOME STATE HERE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

AND WHAT I'M SEEING LATELY IS A LOT OF PEOPLE'S RIGHTS BEING INFRINGED ON BY OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

>> HERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENCES, A LOT OF ANGER ON BOTH SIDES.

SO I THINK THERE'S A NUMBER OF LEGISLATORS THAT HAVE CARVED OUT THAT SPACE.

>> YOU'VE BROKEN WITH YOUR CAUCUS BEFORE.

>> SURE.

>> HAVEN'T BEEN PUNISHED YET, HAVE YOU?

>> NO, AND I DON'T THINK ANY CAUCUSES DO THAT, I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS IT'S THE RASSROOTS.

I HAPPEN TO HAVE A DISTRICT THAT'S REALLY SPLIT.

50/50.

>> IS THERE ALSO GREAT REWARD IN REACHING ACROSS AND SHOWING MODERATION?

>> I THINK SO, I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN THAT YET BUT I FEEL LIKE I'M A BIT OF AN ANOMALY IN MY DESIRE.

THERE'S A 20-FOOT CHASM AND IF EVERYBODY'S WILLING TO JUMP 10 FEET WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

>> ANOTHER CHANGE IS THE GOVERNOR SIGNING AN EXECUTIVE ORDER FOR WEAPONS SCREENINGS AT THE CAPITOL.

>> I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S WITHIN THE GOVERNOR'S AUTHORITY.

PERMIT TO CARRY HOLDERS HAVE AN ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO CARRY AT THE CAPITOL, BAKED INTO STATUTE, NOT SOMETHING THE GOVERNOR CAN OVERTURN VIA EXECUTIVE ORDER.

>> EACH CHAMBER INDIVIDUALLY CONTROLS THEIR OWN SPACE.

THE SENATE WILL BE BANNING GUNS IN THE PUBLIC GALLERY.

THE HOUSE HAS NOT FOLLOWED.

>> PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR LEGISLATORS, WE CAN FIND THAT BALANCE.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT ABOUT THESE THINGS.

IT'S A LITTLE IT MORE RESPECTFUL DISCOURSE RATHER THAN BEING THAT ANGRY, VITRIOLIC, NAME-CALLING.

>> AND WILL IT BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE WALKING PAST MELISSA'S MEMORIAL EVERY SINGLE DAY?

>> I HOPE SO.

WE'RE AT THAT POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO MAKE INTENTIONAL CHOICES ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACT WITH EACH OTHER.

>> PRESIDENT TRUMP PUBLICLY TOUTED POSITIVE PHONE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEMOCRATIC MAYOR OF MINNEAPOLIS AND GOVERNOR OF MINNESOTA.

IN A MAJOR SHIFT IN TONE, AFTER MISINFORMATION FROM VARIOUS FEDERAL OFFICIALS, INCLUDING COMMANDER BOVINO, WHO WAS REPLACED IN THE STATE.

>> -- TO DRAW DOWN ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE HAVE HERE.

YES, I SAID IT.

DRAW DOWN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE.

>> DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MAYBE HELPED CHANGE THE POLITICAL NARRATIVE ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE?

>> MY ANALYSIS MAYBE HAS SHIFTED SOME PEOPLE'S MENTALITY ON THAT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY I JUST WANT TO TRY TO CALM THINGS DOWN AND GET TO A PEACEFUL RESOLUTION WHERE AMERICAN CITIZENS AREN'T AFRAID TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES BECAUSE THEY MIGHT ENCOUNTER FEDERAL AGENTS, WHERE PEOPLE AREN'T BEING ARRESTED FOR HAVING COMMITTED NO CRIME WHATSOEVER, WHERE PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO CARRY ISN'T BEING QUESTIONED BECAUSE THEY DECIDED TO EXERCISE TWO RIGHTS SIMULTANEOUSLY.

>> THE POLITICAL RHETORIC AND THE ANGER, THE FEAR, THE, YOU KNOW, IS, IT IS -- IT'S GONE BEYOND BEING FAR ENOUGH.

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