>> Sam Sylvia Ortiz Vélez, thanks very much.

>> Thank you.

>> It has been a head spinning week at the national level and here at home, Wisconsin smacked with the potential loss of more than $28 billion in federal grants and loans following a Trump administration pause on trillions of U.S. Funding.

A federal judge temporarily blocked the freeze, and quickly thereafter, the administration rescinded most of it.

But for grant and loan recipients, everything from Meals on Wheels to Head Start to farm and housing programs.

The chaotic week has left uncertainty and anxiety in its wake.

The women's community in Wausau reports that federal grant dollars make up about 20% of that agency's total budget.

Executive Director Jane Graham Jennings joins us for a firsthand look at what those grants deliver.

And thanks very much for being here.

Thank you.

So at this hour, is it still confusing about what's happening with the federal grants freeze?

>> It is confusing.

So our federal funds come through state organizations.

So the state filters those funds, and when the initial freeze came out, even our state administrators weren't sure of what was happening.

So then when it was rescinded, we still don't know.

And we haven't heard from our state administrators whether there is an actual freeze or or not.

So basically, we're just continuing with business as usual.

Because, you know, that's just kind of where we are.

But we're still very unclear about what that means for our future.

>> Does your agency have access to those funds?

>> We do it on a reimbursement.

So that's the way the grants operate.

So we have to send in the reports to the state administrators, and then they reimburse.

So we do that every month.

So we don't have direct access until after we have put our reports in.

>> Okay.

And so you say that it is about 20% of your total budget.

What amount is that.

>> So we did some calculations and the percentage would be about $26,000 a.

>> Month.

>> For our agency.

>> What are the services that your agency provides and what would happen to those services without that money?

>> The most what we feel the most devastating impact, one of the grants that we provide is called domestic violence Housing First.

And it's a pilot project that gives us the ability to actually pay rent for survivors of abuse who are able to get out of an unsafe environment and maintain a safe environment because we can pay their rent for up to a year.

So we actually have someone in that program right now that we have promised a year of her rent that we're not sure we can now follow through with.

We have several other people that we are assisting with rent for three and six months, and we're not sure we can follow through with those promises.

Because they are relying on that to be able to maintain a safe home.

So they are back in a situation that they have to choose between homelessness or returning to a violent home.

So that is the particular funds we're most concerned about.

And then for our staffing, it would mean we would have to end our abuse in later life program.

So we have advocates that work specifically with victims 60 and older.

And those funds would mean we wouldn't be able to support those advocates in our sexual assault program.

We have two advocates that are funded by federal dollars that we would have to cut our sexual assault services in half.

And then in our shelter program, we would have to reconfigure how we do that, because it would eliminate funding for a number of our weekend and after hours advocates.

So we'd have to figure out how we could maintain our shelter services.

>> Big, big impacts there for you locally.

Now, the aim of the freeze was to ferret out wasteful spending.

What would you say to people who might think your agency or others shouldn't get this?

>> That we shouldn't get the funding?

>> Yeah.

>> I always say, if you want to know how to really pay attention to your dollars, go talk to a nonprofit agency.

Nonprofits.

You know, we're kind of given a business plan that no actual business would ever think to utilize.

We are given the idea that you have to do all of these things with nothing.

And so we know how to squeeze to the last penny to be as efficient and use every dollar in the most responsible way.

So I would say when you're getting federal funds to a nonprofit organization, that's not wasteful spending, people are on the ground helping other humans in a way that they utilize every cent, because we have to report several reports on every penny that we spend.

So we have to turn in all of our reimbursement forms.

We have to prove that we are using the funds.

As we said we would, and we have to back all of that up with documentation.

So it is certainly not wasteful spending.

It is being used to help people.

>> Jane Graham Jennings, thanks