Wisconsin.

news, by now, most people have heard of project 2025, a conservative blueprint to federal government.

The plan is especially came into focus in recent weeks as Democrats ramped up attacks against Donald Trump, even though the head of project 2025 stepped down this week amid intense criticism, conservative leaders say that work isn't yet done "Here& Now".

Reporter Nathan Denzin describes the conservative action plan and why opponents are warning a second Trump term could be a threat to democracy.

>> Opponents messaging against Donald Trump has been clear he's a threat to democracy.

>> Ours is a fight for the future.

And it is a fight for freedom.

substantially more dangerous than Trump 1.0.

>> He's told us that he wants to be a dictator on day one, but Republicans disagree.

>> I don't believe he's a threat to democracy.

statement that was made by the Democrats.

>> Kamala Harris, now the presumptive nominee as the Democratic candidate for president, talked about the perceived threat in her visit to Milwaukee.

country of freedom, compassion and rule of law, or a country of chaos, fear and hate?

>> Fears like Donald Trump becoming a dictator?

>> You would never abuse power as retribution against anybody except for day one.

Yeah, except for he's going crazy.

Except for day one.

Meaning I want to close the border and I want to drill.

That's not a drill.

That's not.

>> It's just not.

It's just not language that you kind of ideally want somebody to use.

>> Julia Azari is a professor of political science at Marquette University, but he's sort of saying is, even for a day, we're going to eliminate the kind of guardrails and other takes and perspectives.

dumb?

I mean, how can you be that gullible and believe what the media and pundits are making up?

from Florida who visited Milwaukee for the Republican National Convention for one day.

>> I want him to be like every other, like just like Biden was on the first day.

All the executive orders that he put in place to ruin this country.

>> Walters, like many Republicans say, Democrats are blowing Trump's comments out of proportion or taking him out of context.

that people say.

The Bible says a foolish man believes everything he hears.

I would be curious to have that conversation with him in terms of what he meant.

What's the context of those comments?

>> Pastor Lorenzo is a Republican from Detroit who came to Milwaukee to speak at the RNC.

God on this man's life.

You can't deny that God protected him.

There have been a lot of threats to democracy.

I don't believe he's one of those.

>> Our evaluation of the evidence and our evaluation of how this has played out in other contexts has led us to be pretty, pretty alarmed, Azari pointed out.

>> Trump's rhetoric has already led to violence in the past on January 6th, and we fight.

>> We fight like hell.

And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

>> He has encouraged and continues to encourage political violence.

Not only does he encourage it, he supports it.

He endorses it.

He condones it.

>> It's up to us, the people, to make sure that he doesn't get that chance.

>> Harry Dunn and Daniel Patrick Hodges were police officers in the US Capitol during the insurrection on January 6th.

They came to Madison in May to campaign for President Biden.

Both say they were attacked by the angry mob.

>> I'd call January 6th a dry run.

Except it wasn't.

It was a real attempt.

told us they were there because Donald Trump sent them.

That's not my opinion.

Those are their words.

As they were attacking officers.

>> 13 Wisconsinites have been indicted for their role in the insurrection.

While federal through cases, especially when it comes to giving up power and leaving office.

a real sticking point.

>> Those fears have been inflamed by project 2025, the sweeping proposal by ultra conservative allies to Trump would radically change the federal government.

Project 2025 includes proposals to restrict abortion nationwide, allow for discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, use the FBI to go after political enemies, suspend immigrants due process, and proceed with mass deportations.

Eliminate the Department of Education and all environmental protections.

And >> On day one, I was signed a new executive order to cut federal funding of any school, pushing critical race theory, transgender insanity, and other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content onto the lives of our children.

>> It just takes it in a much more radical and ideological direction and consolidates that presidential power.

himself from Project 2025 in recent weeks, saying on social media, quote, I know nothing about project 2025.

I have no idea who's behind it.

But over 200 people affiliated with his campaign were also involved in the creation of project 2025.

>> I think Donald Trump manifestly poses a threat to the American political system, and I don't think that's theoretical any longer.

>> Charlie Sykes is an author and former host of a popular Milwaukee conservative talk >> He tried to overturn a fair and free election.

He incited a mob to attack the Capitol.

>> Sykes said that he voted with Republicans for more than 20 years, but broke with the party in 2016 after Trump secured the nomination.

his next presidency would be a presidency of retribution.

He's openly talked about using the power of the federal government to go after and punish his opponents.

that.

He's had this sort of impact on the tone of politics.

>> It's very unlikely that the Republican Party, in either the House or the Senate would serve as any sort of a bulwark against those kinds of extreme measures.

>> Republicans at the RNC had a different response to the project 2025 proposals.

>> Republicans, we want to have the American dream.

We want everybody to live that American dream.

>> Terrence Wall was a Republican delegate at the RNC from Wisconsin's second congressional district.

>> They project their own storyline onto others.

So they they are the threat to democracy.

of Trump's time as a real estate developer, he's participated in democracy more than just about anybody else.

>> He sponsored the democratic process to get projects approved, you know, dealing with neighborhood associations, plan commissions, hundreds of commissions and committees and cities, you know, councils.

>> More recently, a jury convicted Trump of 34 felonies for falsifying business records in May.

>> I don't think that there's any question after January 6th what he is capable of doing.

>> Trump has shown us who he is.

He's shown us what he stands for, and he's shown us that he wants to be president for life, regardless of what the people voted for and regardless of who the president is, if they consolidate power in a certain way, that's still anti-democratic, hopefully we to preserve our democracy and to preserve our democracy and